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Harte Ziele - Allein gegen Alle (Hard Target)
Frank Castle
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| Original von SlaveOfLove Harte Ziele |
Damn, hatte nur nach Originaltitel gesucht...dann bitte verschmelzen!
Rob2K
Guckt mal was ich im Internet gefunden habe:
Van Damme VS Woo : The Truth.
“Hard Target”, is an update of “The Most Dangerous Game” opening August 1993 to much theatrical expectation, hype, and hope.
The martial art action scenes are masterfully done by the international super karate star, Van Damme of “Bloodsport” fame to include one of the greatest movie stunts to that date. Van Damme’s authentic black-belt karate talents were joined to the highly respected brilliance of Hong Kong’s master movie director, John Woo who filmed “Hard Target” on location in New Orleans successfully capturing its vagrant culture with vivid imagery of past beauty and now shameful shabbiness.
The film largely succeeded regardless of which version was viewed – Van Damme’s shorter 97-minute version or Director Woo’s uncut, full 22-minute longer version that surfaced later. The significant differences between the two versions is the intriguing story behind making of “Hard Target” – the conflict between Van Damme and Woo.
Bad blood spilled off the screen and throughout Hollywood over the film’s cutting at hands of Van Damme. Powerful circumstances had first pulled both Van Damme and Woo together – but then tore them apart like a good marriage ended badly. Nonetheless, the movie remains one of Van Damme’s best and hailed in 1993 as “easily one of the year’s best thrilling actions films”.
Both men won claim for their choreographic expertise. Van Damme who mastered his sport and became a major European champion at just the remarkable age of 19 had the unique ability to present karate to movie audiences so they could fully appreciate the skillful kicks, punches and spinning leaps as they were intertwined to the brute, powerful forces behind karate, thus transforming the hard, raw blunt forces behind martial arts into pure and brute breathtaking beauty. Audiences loved it.
Director Woo, like a ballet, choreographed mad, non-stop overwhelmingly violence into a colossal slow-motion cinema orgy of contradicting beauty and wonder. He had a fondness for the macabre, lingering death scenes coupled with sickening sound effects captured in minute details. Woo wove certain trademark themes throughout his films to tantalize expectations. Audiences loved it.
Following fame from “Bloodsport”, Van Damme was in need of re-making his movie image. He eagerly wanted Woo to direct “Hard Target” to breathe new life into his predictable martial art themes which were growing a little thin. Woo had made a super star of Chow Yun-Fat and Jackie Chan. He was to do same for Van Damme.
But they clashed. Van Damme expected Woo to work his movie magic in ways to best make use of Van Damme’s brilliant kicks, splits, high jumps, and unbelievable speed of his accurate twirling spins. But, Woo had a fascination with gunplay, weapons and explosions, which were a central trademark of his films.
Van Damme was more interested in relying on his superb martial art skills to make the movie work; Woo found ways to counteract Van Damme’s desires creating an awesome array of martial arts to go with gunplay. Van Damme uses both feet to kick and both hands to shoot guns that seemingly never run out of bullets.
Woo realized on moving to America he had to cement his reputation with a display of his creative talent and trademark violence. It was Woo’s habit to weave some acting between lengthy scenes of violent action. He favored intense gunfights, and mind boggling explosions. Van Damme didn’t mind these extremes, he liked them – but he wanted to be the star of “Hard Target” and not be second to Woo’s trademark gunplay and explosions.
In Hollywood’s upper echelon, many believed Woo’s excess fixation on violence would not cross over from his Asian audience into the mainstream American audience – or they feared it would. To help hold the revolutionary director Woo in check, studio heads assigned Sam Raimi as executive producer in case Woo choked. But, Raimi loved Woo’s style and fell in line with Woo. More peculiarly, actor Van Damme was given final approval over editing, the script, and casting. You can imagine Woo’s incredulous exasperation!
Woo finished principle photography and submitted to MPAA for rating but received a disastrous NC-17 rating which would have assured a quick death at the box office had it not obtained an R-rating at the hands of Van Damme's editing. Woo was enraged at attempts to dilute his masterpiece. Van Damme was more interested in a paycheck then a “masterpiece”. Van Damme took over editing in hopes of getting it past the Motion Picture Association of America's rating board by removing some 16-minutes of Woo’s more creatively violent scenes. Woo felt Van Damme was destroying his work while aggrandizing his own petty presence in the film.
Van Damme was no idiot. Although an actor, he knew editing. While we all tend to know how Van Damme impressed Hollywood mongrel Menahem with his karate kicks upon meeting Menahem on a sidewalk to get cast in “Bloodsport” – few know Menahem was not impressed with the film on completion but hated it. Menahem held releasing “Bloodsport” for nearly 19 months - until Van Damme secretly edited the film without the producer’s knowledge. Menahem then agreed to Van Damme’s edited version and later became “impressed” but surprised with its world-wide success as a martial art cult film. Bravo Van Damme!
Van Damme edited most of the explicit violence in the film revolving around overkill and exit wounds common to Woo’s action pictures. Thus, in “Hard Target” Van Damme was the hunted who became the hunter – and Van Damme was the actor who became the second “director”. Woo's genius, nonetheless, cemented later in his highly successful film: “Mission Impossible 2”.
Steht viel positives und negatives über Van Damme und John Woo drin.
Allerdings muss sich jeder selber seine Meinung bilden.
Denn nicht alles was veröffentlicht wird muss ja letztendlich auch stimmen.
Van Damme VS Woo : The Truth.
“Hard Target”, is an update of “The Most Dangerous Game” opening August 1993 to much theatrical expectation, hype, and hope.
The martial art action scenes are masterfully done by the international super karate star, Van Damme of “Bloodsport” fame to include one of the greatest movie stunts to that date. Van Damme’s authentic black-belt karate talents were joined to the highly respected brilliance of Hong Kong’s master movie director, John Woo who filmed “Hard Target” on location in New Orleans successfully capturing its vagrant culture with vivid imagery of past beauty and now shameful shabbiness.
The film largely succeeded regardless of which version was viewed – Van Damme’s shorter 97-minute version or Director Woo’s uncut, full 22-minute longer version that surfaced later. The significant differences between the two versions is the intriguing story behind making of “Hard Target” – the conflict between Van Damme and Woo.
Bad blood spilled off the screen and throughout Hollywood over the film’s cutting at hands of Van Damme. Powerful circumstances had first pulled both Van Damme and Woo together – but then tore them apart like a good marriage ended badly. Nonetheless, the movie remains one of Van Damme’s best and hailed in 1993 as “easily one of the year’s best thrilling actions films”.
Both men won claim for their choreographic expertise. Van Damme who mastered his sport and became a major European champion at just the remarkable age of 19 had the unique ability to present karate to movie audiences so they could fully appreciate the skillful kicks, punches and spinning leaps as they were intertwined to the brute, powerful forces behind karate, thus transforming the hard, raw blunt forces behind martial arts into pure and brute breathtaking beauty. Audiences loved it.
Director Woo, like a ballet, choreographed mad, non-stop overwhelmingly violence into a colossal slow-motion cinema orgy of contradicting beauty and wonder. He had a fondness for the macabre, lingering death scenes coupled with sickening sound effects captured in minute details. Woo wove certain trademark themes throughout his films to tantalize expectations. Audiences loved it.
Following fame from “Bloodsport”, Van Damme was in need of re-making his movie image. He eagerly wanted Woo to direct “Hard Target” to breathe new life into his predictable martial art themes which were growing a little thin. Woo had made a super star of Chow Yun-Fat and Jackie Chan. He was to do same for Van Damme.
But they clashed. Van Damme expected Woo to work his movie magic in ways to best make use of Van Damme’s brilliant kicks, splits, high jumps, and unbelievable speed of his accurate twirling spins. But, Woo had a fascination with gunplay, weapons and explosions, which were a central trademark of his films.
Van Damme was more interested in relying on his superb martial art skills to make the movie work; Woo found ways to counteract Van Damme’s desires creating an awesome array of martial arts to go with gunplay. Van Damme uses both feet to kick and both hands to shoot guns that seemingly never run out of bullets.
Woo realized on moving to America he had to cement his reputation with a display of his creative talent and trademark violence. It was Woo’s habit to weave some acting between lengthy scenes of violent action. He favored intense gunfights, and mind boggling explosions. Van Damme didn’t mind these extremes, he liked them – but he wanted to be the star of “Hard Target” and not be second to Woo’s trademark gunplay and explosions.
In Hollywood’s upper echelon, many believed Woo’s excess fixation on violence would not cross over from his Asian audience into the mainstream American audience – or they feared it would. To help hold the revolutionary director Woo in check, studio heads assigned Sam Raimi as executive producer in case Woo choked. But, Raimi loved Woo’s style and fell in line with Woo. More peculiarly, actor Van Damme was given final approval over editing, the script, and casting. You can imagine Woo’s incredulous exasperation!
Woo finished principle photography and submitted to MPAA for rating but received a disastrous NC-17 rating which would have assured a quick death at the box office had it not obtained an R-rating at the hands of Van Damme's editing. Woo was enraged at attempts to dilute his masterpiece. Van Damme was more interested in a paycheck then a “masterpiece”. Van Damme took over editing in hopes of getting it past the Motion Picture Association of America's rating board by removing some 16-minutes of Woo’s more creatively violent scenes. Woo felt Van Damme was destroying his work while aggrandizing his own petty presence in the film.
Van Damme was no idiot. Although an actor, he knew editing. While we all tend to know how Van Damme impressed Hollywood mongrel Menahem with his karate kicks upon meeting Menahem on a sidewalk to get cast in “Bloodsport” – few know Menahem was not impressed with the film on completion but hated it. Menahem held releasing “Bloodsport” for nearly 19 months - until Van Damme secretly edited the film without the producer’s knowledge. Menahem then agreed to Van Damme’s edited version and later became “impressed” but surprised with its world-wide success as a martial art cult film. Bravo Van Damme!
Van Damme edited most of the explicit violence in the film revolving around overkill and exit wounds common to Woo’s action pictures. Thus, in “Hard Target” Van Damme was the hunted who became the hunter – and Van Damme was the actor who became the second “director”. Woo's genius, nonetheless, cemented later in his highly successful film: “Mission Impossible 2”.
Steht viel positives und negatives über Van Damme und John Woo drin.
Allerdings muss sich jeder selber seine Meinung bilden.
Denn nicht alles was veröffentlicht wird muss ja letztendlich auch stimmen.
burtons
Ich finde das ehrlich gesagt nicht sonderlich innovativ ständig fremdsprachige Texte 1:1 hierrüber zu kopieren!
Rob2K
@Burtons
Kannste kein englisch? Soll ich dir den auch noch übersetzen?
Kannste kein englisch? Soll ich dir den auch noch übersetzen?
burtons
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| Original von Rob2K @Burtons Kannste kein englisch? Soll ich dir den auch noch übersetzen? |
Ich kann sehr gut englisch, aber Primärsprache dieses Forums ist immer noch deutsch.
Musst nicht den ganzen Text übersetzen, aber ne Zusammenfassung tuts auch. P.S.: Dein Ton könnte trotzdem mal etwas freundlicher sein.
TODDSMITH
Wer übrigens den Film liebt soll sich unbediengt den Film Viper - ein ex cop räumt auf mit Lorenzo Lamas anschauen der Film ist einfach unglaublich!
Rob2K
edit by burtons
burtons
@Rob2k
guck mal in deinem Postkasten...
guck mal in deinem Postkasten...
ReferenceVoltage
| Zitat: |
| Original von TODDSMITH Wer übrigens den Film liebt soll sich unbediengt den Film Viper - ein ex cop räumt auf mit Lorenzo Lamas anschauen der Film ist einfach unglaublich! |
hast recht, der Film ist unglaublich, unglaublich schlecht!!!
Ka-Kui
Hard Target stellt für mich eindeutig einen der besten Filme aller Zeiten dar. "Actionpoet" John Woo und Actionlegende Jean-Claude Van Damme haben zusammen einen unfassbaren Film gedreht. 10/10 (wer dieses Meisterwerk nicht mit 10/10 bewertet ist ebenfalls unfassbar)